# Building Jam: Growing Design (Ep. 5) - YouTube

[Building Jam: Growing Design (Ep. 5)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k)

We’re trying something new: hitting record on an unfiltered conversation about building our startup each week. No fluff, just real decisions, moments and challenges.

What’s it like building Jam this week? We’re hiring a second designer and realizing it’s one of the hardest positions to fill.

This week we discuss:

- [0:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=15s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) Why hiring a designer is harder than an engineer  
- [6:57](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=417s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) How we look for designers at Jam  
- [9:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=555s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) How our designers’ personalities have shaped the product  
- [16:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=975s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) Working with sr. designers (tip: they don’t need your Canva file)  
- [21:41](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=1301s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) Talking to new audiences about your product  
- [28:44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=1724s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) Google docs is Totino’s Pizza rolls & Notion is a calzone  
- [30:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=1830s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) Answering “What’s your favorite product?” in a PM interview  
- [33:30](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=2010s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) Reacting to a [mind-blowing website](https://amie.so/?ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) (Amie!)  
- [34:48](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12EzbBxI7k&list=PLtQrebgNo7dIJOLpiiqAg-LUL2QJA-f6W&index=1&t=2088s&ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) What bell-bottom jeans say about your startup

Want to hear more about Jam design? Check out this episode:

[Discussing In-Progress Designs](/content/blog/building-jam-ep-6-in-progress-designs/?ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io) with Jam's lead designer, Chris Rodemeyer.

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P.S. Here's the blog we talked about in the episode: [the pizza-lover's guide to knowledge management tools](/content/blog/the-pizza-lovers-guide-to-knowledge-management-tools/?ref=strawberryjam.ghost.io).